About this podcast

A recent NSPCC report on child abuse was published and the awful events surrounding the death of a two year old focused on child protection arrangements.

Nearly all of these issues are covered in the chat along with the developing game of whether you can determine the Ofsted inspection grade by reading the text of the report.

It is much harder than you would think.

Also, if you are interested you can claim a £20 discount on joining the Safeguarding Network if you insert ‘STAN20’. Our first discount for listeners and watchers. Just to add the Frank and Stan Chat makes no money from the chats and never will. Enjoy.

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Meet the Host

Frank Norris and Stan Johnson have been friends since 1995. Both have had successful and lengthy careers in education. Frank was a very senior HMI with Ofsted for 11 years and was CEO of the Coop Academies Trust for 6 years.

Stan was seconded to Ofsted for a year and then returned to headship before working as a senior adviser with Lancashire LA. He has latterly led a successful education consultancy in the North West. Prior to Covid-19 the two colleagues would meet in Manchester for a pint or two but the pandemic put an end to that.

On 1 May 2020, they recorded their first video chat as a way of recording their emotions and reactions to the pandemic. After putting the video on Youtube as a safe place to store their discussions they realised that some followers began to appear and were interested in their leadership perspectives. Now, with over 170  weekly episodes and usually an eminent guest joining them, they have a growing and increasingly influential following.

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