The Frank and Stan Chat

The Frank and Stan Chat with Stephen McMullan

It is great to have weekly chats with colleagues who know each other well and feel safe chatting about things. There is a higher level of trust and respect. This is certainly the case for this week's chat with Stephen McMullan.

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40 Minutes

What's this episode about?

It is great to have weekly chats with colleagues who know each other well and feel safe chatting about things. There is a higher level of trust and respect. This is certainly the case for this week’s chat with Stephen McMullan.

Stephen worked with Frank as one of the most senior colleagues at the Coop Academies Trust when Frank was CEO there. He became a Senior HMI with Ofsted and then followed in Stan’s footsteps as a senior officer at Wakefield MBC.

The chat covers a recent report from the Youth Endowment Trust that suggested some young people were scared to attend school and the worrying reasons.  Stan considers his recent contact with his GP surgery and why effective leadership is so important and Frank considers the outcomes a recent evaluation he undertook of the latest batch of MAT Summary Evaluations by Ofsted.

The chat ends with a discussion about The Hungry Caterpillar and a video of Stephen reading this to his Wakefield colleagues when he left the Council earlier this year. We are delighted to reveal that we have a copy of that video and it is at the end of our chat. Enjoy!