The Frank and Stan Chat

Carolyn Eyre Returns to Chat about Safeguarding

Frank and Stan

Frank and Stan

About the guest

Frank Norris and Stan Johnson have been friends since 1995. Both have had successful and lengthy careers in education. Frank was a very senior HMI with Ofsted for 11 years and was CEO of the Coop Academies Trust for 6 years.

Stan was seconded to Ofsted for a year and then returned to headship before working as a senior adviser with Lancashire LA. He has latterly led a successful education consultancy in the North West. Prior to Covid-19 the two colleagues would meet in Manchester for a pint or two but the pandemic put an end to that.

On 1 May 2020, they recorded their first video chat as a way of recording their emotions and reactions to the pandemic. After putting the video on Youtube as a safe place to store their discussions they realised that some followers began to appear and were interested in their leadership perspectives. Now, with over 170  weekly episodes and usually an eminent guest joining them, they have a growing and increasingly influential following.

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Carolyn Eyre Returns to Chat about Safeguarding

Frank and Stan Chat Number 165 - a must listen for anyone involved with Safeguarding

Carolyn Eyre is a nationally recognised expert on safeguarding.

She returns to Frank and Stan Chat to discuss what’s caught her eye this week but also to explain the significant changes in statutory and non-statutory arrangements that come into place before the end of 2023. Nearly all of the proposed changes were completely new to Frank (what’s new, we hear you cry!).

If you are a trustee, governor, senior leader in a trust, school or setting, then this chat is well worth watching/listening to.

Frank also offers deep respect for brilliantly talented and committed staff who stick with a school despite poor Ofsted gradings and Carolyn reflects on a new non-plastic poppy.

So, lots of variety and we hope interest for you all.  Enjoy!

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