About this podcast

Welcome to The Knowing Self Knowing Others Podcast, where we explore the art and impact of self-aware leadership. In this episode, host Nia Thomas sits down with Ruth Wells, the CEO of Headway Devon—a leader who truly embodies leading with both head and heart. Ruth’s approach to leadership centers on kindness, authenticity, and the courage to balance accountability with empathy. Together, they explore why kindness is an underrated leadership skill, how to let organizational values live beyond the poster on the wall, and the power of vulnerability and observation in supporting a thriving team.

Ruth shares candidly about her journey, touching on the challenges and rewards of creating a culture where people are supported as individuals, seen for their humanity, and encouraged to grow—even when times are tough. If you’re looking for honest insights on compassionate leadership, practical ways to build self-awareness in yourself and your team, and the importance of learning from feedback, this conversation will inspire you to lead with intention and care.

Tune in for an episode packed with reflections, practical advice, and heartfelt stories about what it really means to make a difference as a leader.
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Meet the Host

Nia is an expert leader who talks the talk and walks the walk.

She is an academically awarded thought leader in self-aware leadership and practices self-aware leadership every single day in her role as a Director in a Children’s Charity.

Nia is a frequent blogger, a passionate podcaster of The Knowing Self Knowing Others Podcast and the author of The Self-Awareness Superhighway.

Nia is on a mission to develop self-aware leaders to create kinder, more respectful and creative working relationships through reflection, recognition and regulation.

Nia has spent 25 years working in the public sector across local government, the NHS, civil service, and in the last few years, charitable sector in Wales and England.  Her role as a charity director is ‘what’ she does and ‘self-aware leadership’ is ‘how’ she does it.

To find out more about Nia, visit her website:

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